Graeme Souness and Jamie Carragher were involved in a heated clash last night as it was confirmed that Virgil van Dijk would be out for several months with an ACL tear following a reckless challenge from Jordan Pickford.
Liverpool were already having to cope with the absence of star goalkeeper Alisson and the news that Van Dijk will have to undergo surgery sent shockwaves across the Premier League and could blow the title race wide open this season.
Everton shot-stopper Pickford escaped punishment as Van Dijk was offside in the build-up to the incident, though it’s unclear whether VAR official David Coote even checked for a potential sending off before the defender hobbled off the pitch.
Former Liverpool captain Souness branded Pickford’s tackle an ‘assault’ while discussing this weekend’s Merseyside derby – which ended 2-2 – on Sky Sports and stressed that referees were there to ‘protect players’ as he criticised those concentrating on the offside call.
This provoked an animated reaction from Carragher, considering Souness was renowned for his tough tackling and is regarded as one of the most ruthless midfielders to play in the top flight.
This is how the argument played out…
It’s outrageous. It’s one that, for me as an ex-player, it’s, “Wow!”, and I’m not even thinking about offside. But how these people who make these decisions at Stockley Park can look at that and think, “That’s offside”, I just don’t get it.
They just don’t know what they’re talking about, they don’t.
I’ve been to Stockley Park over a year ago and it’s nigh on impossible to make a mistake with the technology they have, the time they give themselves, it’s nigh on impossible and they can still get it wrong.
That was an assault, that wasn’t a tackle. That was an assault.
Listen, I reiterate what the lads are saying there and a big thing for me now is when we go into big games, we always demand the best referee and Michael Oliver is the best referee.
I’m now actually wondering would you rather have the best referee at Stockley Park rather than on the pitch? Because these are decisions that are deciding games really.
Of course – I’m going to say what everyone else has said – of course it should have been a red card for Jordan Pickford, it was a terrible tackle. But there will be a lot of frustration now in the Liverpool camp, from Liverpool supporters, maybe other people and neutrals wanting Jordan Pickford to be banned: “This is a terrible tackle, this is this, this is that!”
We’ve got to be careful with that and I am going to defend Jordan Pickford on that. Yeah, it was a terrible tackle, I’ve had my leg broken, I nearly broke Nani’s leg… these thing happen unfortunately in football. I don’t think anyone goes out of their way to deliberately hurt someone. Hand on heart, I believe 99 per cent of professional footballers will not try and hurt someone.
Jordan Pickford is all over the place with his game at the moment, comes out and makes a crazy decision as he has been doing for the last 12 months and very, very unfortunately one of the best players in the Premier League is obviously in a bad way.
I hope and I really believe this will be the case, Jordan Pickford will not be in a good place tonight and I hope he isn’t in some ways. I always remember when I made that really poor challenge on Nani, fortunately nothing happened to him. We beat Manchester United that day but I went home that night and it was all I could think about. I didn’t want to be associated with someone who brought another footballer’s career to an end.
It’s a really serious one and we all feel for Van Dijk but Pickford has made a poor decision and a poor challenge but I think that should certainly be the end of it. We’re talking about maybe retrospective, looking back on it, lynch mobs on the back of it… these things unfortunately happen in football.
But it’s the bigger picture we’re talking about.
Referees are there to protect players.
Oh Graeme, the tackles you did!
Oh behave, Graeme!
What have I said that’s wrong? I’m saying they’re there to protect players. I’m agreeing with you that Jordan Pickford didn’t go out to injure Van Dijk but my point is that if a referee ‘s on the pitch and doesn’t see anything wrong with that, it then goes back to Stockley Park and they still don’t see anything. That’s where it’s wrong.
There’s been nothing but complaint and complaint about VAR. VAR is a tool that’s there to aid referees make fewer mistakes. What VAR has actually done to referees is it embarrasses the life out of them because they’re making mistake after mistake after mistake. And this is after all the technology.
But I come back to my first thing and I’m angry about it where a referee can look at that challenge from Jordan Pickford and all he wants to talk about it the offside. That becomes absolutely secondary.
Anyone who understands football will tell you that was reckless. And I don’t want to stick it on Jordan Pickford because I think he’s come out, he’s just tried to make himself big and he’s launched himself at Virgil. I don’t think he meant to injure him badly.
But if a referee can look at that whole thing, that ten second sequence and go, “It’s offside and that’s all I want to talk about”, that’s what I’m talking about, Jamie. That’s what the problem is. If that’s what the referee sees, that’s the problem.
Listen, I think something going forward, and I think the official involved was David Coote, I’ve said from day one that people in VAR have a problem with the authority. Michael Oliver is the best referee in the Premier League, I’m going to come in and say he hasn’t seen something.
Is there not something in the game where people talk about ex-professionals being involved… I’m not quite sure because it wouldn’t work. People would have allegiances to different teams and all that.
But in terms of referees, I’m not sure what the exact age is that they have to retire, referees have been referees for 20-30 years, they’ve got that experience and they don’t feel inferior to Michael Oliver. They’ve had that experience and they’ve been top referees – sit them there!
They’ve got that experience, they probably can make bigger decisions than maybe the officials that are in the VAR at the moment because, more often than not, the best referees are going to be on the pitch.
Van Dijk issued a defiant message after severity of his injury became clear and vowed to return stronger than ever.
‘This afternoon I met with a leading consultant to start the process of planning the finer details of my rehabilitation following the incident yesterday,’ the talismanic Liverpool centre-back posted on Instagram.
‘I’m not fully focused on my recovery and will do everything I can to be back as quickly as possible.
‘Despite the obvious disappointment, I am a full believer that within difficulty lies opportunity and with God’s help I am going to make sure I return better, fitter and stronger than ever before.
‘In football as in life, I believe everything happens for a reason and it’s important to keep level-headed, whether going through the highs or the lows.
‘With the support of my wife, kids, family and everyone at Liverpool I am ready for the challenge ahead.
‘I would like to think everyone for the messages of support, it’s meant a huge amount to me and my family and I’ll now be doing everything possible to support my team-mates in anyway I can ahead of a big few weeks ahead as I take my own recovery day-by-day. I’ll be back’.